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there's a two-month delay when it comes to dramatic spending cuts put out as part of the fiscal cliff. the stock market is closed for today of course it's a holiday. we don't know how wall street will react. but we have a feeling and a sense of how you are responding. alison kosik at a diner in new york. i imagine if you talk to folks they are really frustrated with this thinking, why would you wait until the very last minute? this is something that impacts all of us. what are they telling you? >> reporter: there are lots of opinions, yeah. we're in new york city where people don't hold back their opinions. what happen's great about the diner, we're getting opinions from across the country. liz here from maine all i have to do is say the words fiscal cliff, what comes to mind? >> it's not a cliff, it's a slope. >> reporter: meaning? >> it's not a huge deal. it's not going to be like this disastrous event. it's just not. it's not going to affect me06u personally. i'm a graduate student. i get paid by state of indiana for my assistantship. it's not going to affect me. it's not going to
there's a two-month delay when it comes to dramatic spending cuts put out as part of the fiscal cliff. the stock market is closed for today of course it's a holiday. we don't know how wall street will react. but we have a feeling and a sense of how you are responding. alison kosik at a diner in new york. i imagine if you talk to folks they are really frustrated with this thinking, why would you wait until the very last minute? this is something that impacts all of us. what are they telling you?...
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a while have held the upper hand on these fiscal cliff negotiations because what is it all mean? this is about taxes for democrats, and the bush tax cuts expire at the end of this year, and, look, they are saying republicans are going to come back and say we don't want taxes to go up for those, you know, making less than $250,000 a year or more, so they will come back at the beginning of the year and propose something that can get done. you heard chuck schumer who happens to be reid's top lieutenant say the same thing on "meet the press" last week, so i think that that's what democrats see as their leverage and their fallback. now, republicans see the debt ceiling as their leverage which is a tricky game. >> we're hearing that vice president joe biden has been linked to the negotiations. what do you think his role is in all of this, and why do you think he's being called in now? >> well, mitch mcconnell, a top republican aide told me, picked up the phone and called joe biden because they felt like these talks were going nowhere, that they hadn't heard back from harry reid and dec
a while have held the upper hand on these fiscal cliff negotiations because what is it all mean? this is about taxes for democrats, and the bush tax cuts expire at the end of this year, and, look, they are saying republicans are going to come back and say we don't want taxes to go up for those, you know, making less than $250,000 a year or more, so they will come back at the beginning of the year and propose something that can get done. you heard chuck schumer who happens to be reid's top...
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draws closer and closer to that fiscal cliff. the defense department is facing billions in budget cuts. how a furlough could affect civilian employees in the u.s. and around the world. oh, hey mike. what are you up to? oh, just diagramming this accident with my state farm pocket agent app. you can also get a quote and pay your premium with this thing. i thought state farm didn't have all those apps? where did you hear that? the internet. and you believed it? yeah. they can't put anything on the internet that isn't true. where did you hear that? [ both ] the internet. oh look. here comes my date. i met him on the internet. he's a french model. uh, bonjour. [ male announcer ] state farm. more mobile than ever. get to a better state. he loves risk. but whether he's climbing everest, scuba diving the great barrier reef with sharks, or jumping into the market, he goes with people he trusts, which is why he trades with a company that doesn't nickel and dime him with hidden fees. so he can worry about other things, like what the market
draws closer and closer to that fiscal cliff. the defense department is facing billions in budget cuts. how a furlough could affect civilian employees in the u.s. and around the world. oh, hey mike. what are you up to? oh, just diagramming this accident with my state farm pocket agent app. you can also get a quote and pay your premium with this thing. i thought state farm didn't have all those apps? where did you hear that? the internet. and you believed it? yeah. they can't put anything on the...
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what we're doing here, we are not going to offset the fiscal cliff, just doing the bush tax cuts. we'll only take away about 11%, 12% of total economic impact of the so-called fiscal cliff, all of the policies brought together because you'll be letting the payroll tax expire, the refundable tax cuts expire, and the sequester will be doing and we won't be doing much deficit reduction. we'll be increasing the deficit. it is just, i think, hard to step back and take in the totality of congressional failure around this issue. >> well, let's talk about what exactly is likely to happen or is the threat of what will happen. talk about the pentagon. talk about federal workers. talk about obviously the unemploy unemployed whose benefits are going away. >> absolutely. the biggest -- the most dangerous thing, the fiscal cliff is the unemployment insurance. if we go over for a month we can sort of trick everything else. we can -- the irs can do some tricks to make it so you don't feel tax increases quickly. we can do tricks to make it so we don't lay off people at pentagon, we can furlough th
what we're doing here, we are not going to offset the fiscal cliff, just doing the bush tax cuts. we'll only take away about 11%, 12% of total economic impact of the so-called fiscal cliff, all of the policies brought together because you'll be letting the payroll tax expire, the refundable tax cuts expire, and the sequester will be doing and we won't be doing much deficit reduction. we'll be increasing the deficit. it is just, i think, hard to step back and take in the totality of...
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if no fiscal cliff deal is reached, most everyone's taxes will go up tuesday with deep spending cuts kicking in. earlier i spoke with a democratic and republican strategist. they seemed to echo the sentiment of the voters. >> this is like, when you at the beginning of the year and you're in school at the beginning of the year, you get assigned a big project and you leave it until the last night. when i used to do that, my parents used to punish me. if kids were behaving the way these congress people are, they would be in the time out. if it was the public sector they would be fired. the only solution lies with us, the american people, and with us the voters demanding that they start working together and actually coming up with something. we cannot continue having these spec tackles every few months. it's like making sausage. >> can we talk about the optics of this? there are many saying this is a republican and democratic problem, we're here because republicans won't play ball. >> it's easy for me to say that, i do think that politically, the republicans will suffer more if this does
if no fiscal cliff deal is reached, most everyone's taxes will go up tuesday with deep spending cuts kicking in. earlier i spoke with a democratic and republican strategist. they seemed to echo the sentiment of the voters. >> this is like, when you at the beginning of the year and you're in school at the beginning of the year, you get assigned a big project and you leave it until the last night. when i used to do that, my parents used to punish me. if kids were behaving the way these...
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but six days before the fiscal cliff, president obama cutting short his christmas vacation on the off chance he and congress might be able to cut some kind of deal. he left. but brianna keilar is still there in honolulu. when's the president leaving and why does he really expect to avoid the cliff? >> reporter: i will be leaving as well when the president leaves, don. he is expected. he will be leaving tonight. that's local time. so he'll be traveling overnight and arriving back in the d.c. area late thursday morning. as you know, the senate reconvenes tomorrow. so he'll be going back as that is happening. we heard from him last week as he was heading out to hawaii. he said, see you next week. we had a thought that this was probably going to happen. he is officially now going back. he said last week, don, that he is still optimistic that something can get done. the other issue here, though, is you can imagine, how bad it would look if he go over the cliff and there's a lot of work to make sure that doesn't happen. he's here in hawaii on vacation. that would look terrible for him. so o
but six days before the fiscal cliff, president obama cutting short his christmas vacation on the off chance he and congress might be able to cut some kind of deal. he left. but brianna keilar is still there in honolulu. when's the president leaving and why does he really expect to avoid the cliff? >> reporter: i will be leaving as well when the president leaves, don. he is expected. he will be leaving tonight. that's local time. so he'll be traveling overnight and arriving back in the...
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now it is up to the house to stop the fiscal cliff. that's $600 billion of automatic tax hikes and spending cuts. at this hour, though, a vote by the house is not yet scheduled. a multiple representative took to the store today floor today vote would be no. >> i wish i could say this was a proud moment, a moment in which we started the year off right, in which the first of january was the first of great many good things. it isn't. we're kicking the can down the road. and worse than that, when faced with a mountain of debt that we were heading for, like an airplane, did we climb over it? no. what we're going to do in the present plan is put nearly another trillion dollars worth of debt on the american people. >> well, joining us now from capitol hill, representative peter welsh, democrat of vermont. we see some democrats moving to the podium. they are also scheduled to speak. congressman welsh, we don't want to interrupt you. so nancy pelosi stepping to the podium. let's take a quick listen. >> well, we just finished a standing room onl
now it is up to the house to stop the fiscal cliff. that's $600 billion of automatic tax hikes and spending cuts. at this hour, though, a vote by the house is not yet scheduled. a multiple representative took to the store today floor today vote would be no. >> i wish i could say this was a proud moment, a moment in which we started the year off right, in which the first of january was the first of great many good things. it isn't. we're kicking the can down the road. and worse than that,...
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in other words, we all tumble off the fiscal cliff together. for their annual football trip. that's double miles you can actually use. tragically, their buddy got sacked by blackouts. but it's our tradition! that's roughing the card holder. but with the capital one venture card you get double miles you can actually use. [ cheering ] any flight, anytime. the scoreboard doesn't lie. what's in your wallet? hut! i have me on my fantasy team. >>> while most of you were out welcoming in the new year, the senate was out working late and long after the champagne toast, they passed a deal on the fiscal cliff. now it's up to the house to pass it. the house gets back to work in about 30 minutes from now. house republicans are going to meet to decide what the next step is. vote, no e vote, change things? so while we have heard the reactions from some lawmakers on that senate deal, americans who are a bit groggy from last night, are waking up to the news and having weighing in. alison kosik has been out sampling some of that opinion. what are people saying? >> reporter: you know what's in
in other words, we all tumble off the fiscal cliff together. for their annual football trip. that's double miles you can actually use. tragically, their buddy got sacked by blackouts. but it's our tradition! that's roughing the card holder. but with the capital one venture card you get double miles you can actually use. [ cheering ] any flight, anytime. the scoreboard doesn't lie. what's in your wallet? hut! i have me on my fantasy team. >>> while most of you were out welcoming in the...
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that's how the markets will probably react to the fiscal cliff deal. yes, to be sure, the worst effects have been put off, but only for a while. there's still those spending cuts. they've been kicked down the road by two months. there's the $16.4 trillion debt ceiling, which has to be raised. that's been kicked off a couple of months. and then you've got the appropriations, the whole budget process, which will come back before the spring is over. so time and again, the markets in europe are saying we've seen how difficult it is to do these deals. look at what happened with greece, with bailouts, with sovereign debt crises, with the euro zone. it was only at the very last possible minute that compromise was reached, that the big bargain was done. and if you look at the united states, even at a time of, a moment when really both sides needed to do more than the minimum, the markets will be saying they failed to do so. so, yes, they will be relieved, there won't be any immediate reaction, but the markets are certainly putting the politicians on notice tha
that's how the markets will probably react to the fiscal cliff deal. yes, to be sure, the worst effects have been put off, but only for a while. there's still those spending cuts. they've been kicked down the road by two months. there's the $16.4 trillion debt ceiling, which has to be raised. that's been kicked off a couple of months. and then you've got the appropriations, the whole budget process, which will come back before the spring is over. so time and again, the markets in europe are...
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that we don't want to inflict on you, but would have to by the design of the fiscal cliff, that oh, by the way, we created a year and a half ago. they actually couldn't get the social security cuts through this time. but republicans have promised and obama will probably be happy to go along with it that in the next few months they're going to you know, take another crack at "entitlement reform." but i think that whether or not this deal ends up being a good one for -- for democrats, depends on whether or not the president holds firm in the commitment he made. that he will refuse to negotiate on the debt ceiling. he is saying forget it. i'm not even going to talk about it. i don't care what you want to give me to raise the debt ceiling, i don't care what you want about the debt ceiling, i'm not going to touch the debt ceiling. now what does that mean? does that mean he is going to pay the debts even if the republicans don't raise the debt ceiling. we don't know, but he has insisted, both in private and with his staff in his public statements and in private with others that this is a
that we don't want to inflict on you, but would have to by the design of the fiscal cliff, that oh, by the way, we created a year and a half ago. they actually couldn't get the social security cuts through this time. but republicans have promised and obama will probably be happy to go along with it that in the next few months they're going to you know, take another crack at "entitlement reform." but i think that whether or not this deal ends up being a good one for -- for democrats,...
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so too will the fiscal cliff. $600 billion worth of tax increases and spending cuts. it is supposed to be automatic. but now republicans are suggesting a delay, the president just spoke trying to add pressure to congress to avoid going over the fiscal cliff. listen. >> my preference would have been to solve all these problems in the context of a larger agreement, a bigger deal, a grand bargain, whatever you want to call it, that solves our deficit problems in a balanced and responsible way that doesn't just deal with the taxes, but deals with the spending in a balanced way, so that we can put all this behind us focusing on growing our economy. but with this congress, that was obviously a little too much to hope for at this time. >> let's turn now to chief white house correspondent jessica yellin. let's talk a little bit about the outlines of the deal, the fact that the president came out to make his case and try to push this thing over the finish line. what does the white house have to do to gain the backing it needs. >> reporter: well, what we heard from the presiden
so too will the fiscal cliff. $600 billion worth of tax increases and spending cuts. it is supposed to be automatic. but now republicans are suggesting a delay, the president just spoke trying to add pressure to congress to avoid going over the fiscal cliff. listen. >> my preference would have been to solve all these problems in the context of a larger agreement, a bigger deal, a grand bargain, whatever you want to call it, that solves our deficit problems in a balanced and responsible...
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with six days before we go off the fiscal cliff, president obama is cutting his hawaii vacation short, flying back to washington, uncertain what kind of deal making possibilities he will find when we will come back. republican leaders made no decision about when to call their members back nor it is clear what kind of deal, if any, they will have to vote on. a lot of digging tonight for cnn's dana bash. i understand there were no decisions out of this call, but do we have any sense of what fellow. >> rob:s are telling speaker boehner? how likely are we to see a vote in time to avoid going of the cliff? >> it really is up in the air. i'm told in part that's why house. >> rob:s didn't make a decision to bring the house back or when to do it because the ball really is in the senate's court, specifically with senate democrats. that has changed big time since a few weeks ago. at this point what they are trying to figure out is whether or not they can find enough republicans to cross party lines for what the president proposed right before he left for hawaii which is a scaled-back bill focus
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in the fiscal cliff could slow economic growth by a half a percentage point and send unemployment up to 9.1% over the course of 2013. the nonpartisan tax policy center calculate that is the average middle class family would see its tax rates -- its tax bills rise next year by $2,000. the fiscal cliff isn't the only thing rattling the economy. in just a few weeks lawmakers will begin battling over the debt ceiling. you may recall that in the summer of 2011 the debt limit standoff led to the first ever downgrade of the nation's credit rating. joining us now from capitol hill is cnbc's aman jabbers. appreciate you helping us make sense of all of this. >> happy new year. thank you for having me. >> on a less happy note, there are economists who are saying this whole fight over the fiscal cliff, the rangeling in washington has already caused a hit on the economy. can you explain sort of what the impact of the debate has been. >> you dw definitely seen it. ju as early as friday when we report that the president was not making his new offer with offers down at the white house. we saw the st
in the fiscal cliff could slow economic growth by a half a percentage point and send unemployment up to 9.1% over the course of 2013. the nonpartisan tax policy center calculate that is the average middle class family would see its tax rates -- its tax bills rise next year by $2,000. the fiscal cliff isn't the only thing rattling the economy. in just a few weeks lawmakers will begin battling over the debt ceiling. you may recall that in the summer of 2011 the debt limit standoff led to the...
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meantime with six days until we go off the fiscal cliff, president obama is cutting his hawaiien family vacation short. flying back to washington tonight. unwhat kind of deal-making possibilities he will find when he gets back. house republican leaders held a conference call but no decision when to call members back nor is it clear what kind of deal, if any, they will have to vote on. a lot of moving pieces and a lot of digging for cnn's dana bash. i understand there were no decisions out of the call. do we have any sense what fellow republicans are telling speaker boehner? how likely are we going to see a vote before going over the cliff? >> it's up in the air. i'm told it is in part why house republicans didn't make a decision whether to bring the house back or when to do it. the ball is really in the senate's court, specifically with senate democrats. that changed big time since a couple of weeks ago. at this point what senate democrats are trying to figure out is whether or not they can find enough republicans to cross party lines for what the president proposed right before he left
meantime with six days until we go off the fiscal cliff, president obama is cutting his hawaiien family vacation short. flying back to washington tonight. unwhat kind of deal-making possibilities he will find when he gets back. house republican leaders held a conference call but no decision when to call members back nor is it clear what kind of deal, if any, they will have to vote on. a lot of moving pieces and a lot of digging for cnn's dana bash. i understand there were no decisions out of...
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we'll have more on that and the fiscal cliff negotiations in a minute. >>> first, i want to show you the rest of the world is ringing in the new year. midnight arrived in asia. they are calling it a pyre tech nick musical. they were scheduled to begin an hour before midnight. hong kong on the top ten places to ring in the new year. let's listen. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ >>> ring in the new year, good morning 2013. we'll continue to monitor all of these celebrations as the day rolls on. the night rolls on in some cases. midnight in the u.s. is the big fiscal cliff deadline. there are two fronts we are watching today. capitol hill and wall street. let's see if there's any movement on capitol hill. stock markets moving up because it's a little erratic. dana bash is watching that live for us. dana, last hour you were saying progress is being made. now you've been hearing rumblings on the opposite from the far left. what are you hearing now? >> very interesting. we have been hearing from both sides of the aisle that part of the big issue has been to get over objections from conservative republican
we'll have more on that and the fiscal cliff negotiations in a minute. >>> first, i want to show you the rest of the world is ringing in the new year. midnight arrived in asia. they are calling it a pyre tech nick musical. they were scheduled to begin an hour before midnight. hong kong on the top ten places to ring in the new year. let's listen. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ >>> ring in the new year, good morning 2013. we'll continue to monitor all of these celebrations as the day rolls on....
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>> no vote tonight on the fiscal cliff. what are the chances of lawmakers cobbling a compromise tomorrow? would real pain start to hit everyone in the form of tax hikes and spending cuts? what other options do lawmakers have as a last resort. steven moore joins us from washington. steven is a senior economics writer with "the wall street journal." he writes op-eds. he's involved in the opinion pages. he's also a co-founder of the organization called club for growth, which has really been at the forefront of fighting tax increases across the board. so, you know, sometimes, steven, on tv we talk about grover norquist and a lot of people really don't like him. you think grover has the right idea. you have colleague es in the senate, in the house of representatives. we have talked about this endlessly for many months and we both sort of went into the last few days thinking they'll get a deal, they'll do it. it will increase some tacks on the rich and we'll figure out a number. i think both of us put forward it would be $500,000
>> no vote tonight on the fiscal cliff. what are the chances of lawmakers cobbling a compromise tomorrow? would real pain start to hit everyone in the form of tax hikes and spending cuts? what other options do lawmakers have as a last resort. steven moore joins us from washington. steven is a senior economics writer with "the wall street journal." he writes op-eds. he's involved in the opinion pages. he's also a co-founder of the organization called club for growth, which has...
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still question lines before we get to the finish line and avert the fiscal cliff. in two months, the voice president told democrats behind closed doors, there will be a donnybrook in vintage biden speak when we talk about the mandatory spending cuts that they delayed to the end of february. >> thank you so much. we'll be back in a moment with continuing coverage of negotiations on the fiscal cliff, please stay with us. the boys use capital one venture miles for their annual football trip. that's double miles you can actually use. tragically, their buddy got sacked by blackouts. but it's our tradition! that's roughing the card holder. but with the capital one venture card you get double miles you can actually use. [ cheering ] any flight, anytime. the scoreboard doesn't lie. what's in your wallet? hut! i have me on my fantasy team. like gas station sushi. or super cheap car insurance. and then there are good decisions. like esurance. their coverage counselor helps you choose the right coverage for you at a great price. [ stomach growls ] esurance. now backed by alls
still question lines before we get to the finish line and avert the fiscal cliff. in two months, the voice president told democrats behind closed doors, there will be a donnybrook in vintage biden speak when we talk about the mandatory spending cuts that they delayed to the end of february. >> thank you so much. we'll be back in a moment with continuing coverage of negotiations on the fiscal cliff, please stay with us. the boys use capital one venture miles for their annual football trip....
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keep in mind that the threat of tax hikes going up is only one part of this so-called fiscal cliff that everybody has been talking about. what we also have facing us starting tomorrow are automatic spending cuts that are scheduled to go into effect. keep in mind that some of these spending cuts that congress has said will automatically go into effect have an impact on our defense department, but they also have an impact on things like head start and so there are some programs that are scheduled to be cut that we're using an ax instead ax instead of a scalpel. may not always be the smartest cuts and so that is a piece of business that still has to be taken care of. and i want to make clear that any agreement we have to deal with these automatic spending cuts that are being threatened for next month, they have to be balanced. my principle is to do things in a balanced, responsible way and that means that revenues have to be part of the equation in turning off the sequester and eliminating the automatic spending cuts as well as spending cuts. now, the same is true for any future deficit ag
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it's not a good fiscal cliff deal if it give morse tax cuts to 2% and sets the stage for, in his words, quote, hostage-taking. he is voicing the concern that because the taxes only apply or go up on those making $400,000 or more and $450,000 if you're a couple, that essentially it's not hitting enough people. and he is voicing the concern that there might be deep cuts. so there is some pressure coming from the left for democrats to not necessarily accept the deal that is on the table. now, we saw president obama come out earlier today and talk about the fact that look, this isn't a perfect deal. this represents compromise on all sides. part of the reason you saw president obama come out today is not only to pressure republicans, but also to pressure democrats to get the deal done before this midnight deadline that is now so close and that is fast approaching. so there is some opposition that is being voiced from the left. could this impact the decision of some senate democrats? we'll have to wait and see, certainly. but, of course, when these deals come together, there are a lot of dis
it's not a good fiscal cliff deal if it give morse tax cuts to 2% and sets the stage for, in his words, quote, hostage-taking. he is voicing the concern that because the taxes only apply or go up on those making $400,000 or more and $450,000 if you're a couple, that essentially it's not hitting enough people. and he is voicing the concern that there might be deep cuts. so there is some pressure coming from the left for democrats to not necessarily accept the deal that is on the table. now, we...
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so they always say it's the other guy who wants to go over the fiscal cliff. i don't hear people going out and saying i think it's a good idea that everyone pays more taxes or there are these deep spending cuts. they're all pretending like they know everyone else's strategy. it's about coming to a yes as opposed to agreeing to a no. that's where they don't want to take the heat. >> richard wolf, always good to see you, my friend. thanks. >> thanks, chris. >> the real victims of the fight will not necessarily be republicans or democrats, of course. it's going to be the american people. we talked to bernie sanders about those 2.1 million people on unemployment. we'll look at what going over the fiscal cliff will actually mean to you. our special coverage continues in just a moment. ♪ [ male announcer ] every time you say no to a cigarette, you celebrate a little win. nicoderm cq, the patch with time release smart control technology that acts fast and helps control cravings all day long. ♪ quit one day at a time with nicoderm cq. >>> welcome back to msnbc's c
so they always say it's the other guy who wants to go over the fiscal cliff. i don't hear people going out and saying i think it's a good idea that everyone pays more taxes or there are these deep spending cuts. they're all pretending like they know everyone else's strategy. it's about coming to a yes as opposed to agreeing to a no. that's where they don't want to take the heat. >> richard wolf, always good to see you, my friend. thanks. >> thanks, chris. >> the real victims...
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yes, we are all waiting to cue the confetti with hopes for a last-minute deal to avert the fiscal cliff. with sweeping tax hikes and spending cuts set to take effect at midnight, frantic negotiations are ongoing at this hour with the president teasing the prospect of a deal on at least part of the cliff just hours ago. >> it appears that an agreement to prevent this new year's tax hike is within sight, but it's not done. we we're hopeful that congress can get it done, but it's not done. >> so it's not done. in case you missed that, he said it twice, not done. reports of an emerging deal focus on a few key parameters, raising tax rates on couple it's making more than $450,000 a year, increasing the estate tax rate, and extending unemployment benefits for one year. the major sticking point new appears to be sequester spending. while the president said he would prefer a grand bargain, a certain branch of government stood in the way. >> with this congress that was obviously a little too much to hope for. one thing we can count on with respect to this congress is that if there's even one sec
yes, we are all waiting to cue the confetti with hopes for a last-minute deal to avert the fiscal cliff. with sweeping tax hikes and spending cuts set to take effect at midnight, frantic negotiations are ongoing at this hour with the president teasing the prospect of a deal on at least part of the cliff just hours ago. >> it appears that an agreement to prevent this new year's tax hike is within sight, but it's not done. we we're hopeful that congress can get it done, but it's not done....
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to push our economy back into the recession if we go over the fiscal cliff. >> but ali, neither side is budging much. you have been reporting on it for the last couple of hours. friday though, president obama said that he was optimistic that the two sides could reach a deal. this morning, he sounded less positive though. >> if, you know, if people start seeing that on january 1st, this problem still has not been solved, that we haven't seen the kind of deficit reduction that we could have had, had the republicans been willing to take the deal they gave them, and if they say that people's taxes have gone up which means consumer spending will go down. >> and keep in mind that the senate is the first hurdle. any deal has to pass the house. we are not into the senate yet and the republican speaker john boehner plablamed the crisis one president saying he the one who has never found a way to say yes. >> so you are in new york and i'm in atlanta, and we get to washington now, because the senior congressional correspondent dana bash is closely following the negotiations from capitol hill, a
to push our economy back into the recession if we go over the fiscal cliff. >> but ali, neither side is budging much. you have been reporting on it for the last couple of hours. friday though, president obama said that he was optimistic that the two sides could reach a deal. this morning, he sounded less positive though. >> if, you know, if people start seeing that on january 1st, this problem still has not been solved, that we haven't seen the kind of deficit reduction that we...
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that make up the so-called fiscal cliff. good morning. it's january 1st. welcome to a special new year's edition of "msnbc live." i'm chris jansing. of course, there is still one more very long bridge left to cross, and that is the house. they still have to weigh in on this before the bill becomes law. senate leaders from both parties said inaction, though, is not an option. >> i hope the new year will bring a new willingness on the part of the house republicans to join democrats in the difficult but rewarding work of government. >> we don't think taxes should be going up on anyone, but we all knew that if we did nothing, they'd be going up on everyone today. >> luke russert is nbc's capitol hill correspondent. happy new year to you, my friend. >> reporter: happy new year to you, chris. you're certainly chirpy this morning. 5-hour energy going strong. >> i've never had so much coffee in a single two-hour period in my life. all right, it's been an exhausting 24 hours. weren't we just talking a few hours ago? bring us up to sp
that make up the so-called fiscal cliff. good morning. it's january 1st. welcome to a special new year's edition of "msnbc live." i'm chris jansing. of course, there is still one more very long bridge left to cross, and that is the house. they still have to weigh in on this before the bill becomes law. senate leaders from both parties said inaction, though, is not an option. >> i hope the new year will bring a new willingness on the part of the house republicans to join...
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fiscal cliff. here's what both sides are considering in a potential deal right now. an increase in tax rates for families making over $450,000 a year. extending unemployment benefits. and an increase in the estate tax. the president seemed hopeful but cautious when he addressed the american people earlier today. >> today, it appears that an agreement to prevent this new year's tax hike is within sight. but it's not done. there are still issues left to resolve. but we're hopeful that congress can get it done. but it's not done. >> let's get straight to our chief white house correspondent jessi jessica yellin. she's over at the white house with the very latest. the president seems pretty optimistic that it's within a few hours we could have a deal, right? >> reporter: wolf, the people i just spoke to here say they are no more or less optimistic than they were this morning. which is to say they are not cueing the confetti just yet. senator mitch mcconnell, the republican leader on the hill, is still t
fiscal cliff. here's what both sides are considering in a potential deal right now. an increase in tax rates for families making over $450,000 a year. extending unemployment benefits. and an increase in the estate tax. the president seemed hopeful but cautious when he addressed the american people earlier today. >> today, it appears that an agreement to prevent this new year's tax hike is within sight. but it's not done. there are still issues left to resolve. but we're hopeful that...
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do they want to go off the fiscal cliff? go to facebook.com/newsnation to vote. that does it for us. i'm craig melvin in for tamron hall. "the cycle" up next and go skins. new years clutter is no match for someone with big ideas. with a new project in mind, some how-to knowledge to give us an edge, and more savings down every aisle. it only takes a few twists and turns for those bright ideas to make the new year even brighter. more saving. more doing. that's the power of the home depot. start fresh and save with hdx 20 gallon totes, a special buy at just $5.88 a piece.
do they want to go off the fiscal cliff? go to facebook.com/newsnation to vote. that does it for us. i'm craig melvin in for tamron hall. "the cycle" up next and go skins. new years clutter is no match for someone with big ideas. with a new project in mind, some how-to knowledge to give us an edge, and more savings down every aisle. it only takes a few twists and turns for those bright ideas to make the new year even brighter. more saving. more doing. that's the power of the home...
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not going to be able to do as much. >> we're looking in six days of going over the fiscal cliff. $600 million in tax increases and spending cuts. >> nobody wants to do that. >> i think we all agree and no talks by all accounts by the president and members of congress. >> the president went -- >> and the president was playing golf in honolulu. listen, i was working on christmas. with all due respect. should congress have taken a break? >> no. >> there are huge implications here. we have to wait on the senate at this point. and that's -- that's our challenge. we did send a bill to them in -- a couple of months ago in august. although now it's four months ago. we sent a bill to them saying let's extend '01, '03 for the time being so we can work on real tax reform. they need to send that back to us. it's true speaker boehner brought another bill for consideration to the house majority. but that's just -- >> and they rejected it. >> that's just moving the hot potato around. nothing is getting done. >> if you look at it, the house has passed a budget for three years in a row. the senate has
not going to be able to do as much. >> we're looking in six days of going over the fiscal cliff. $600 million in tax increases and spending cuts. >> nobody wants to do that. >> i think we all agree and no talks by all accounts by the president and members of congress. >> the president went -- >> and the president was playing golf in honolulu. listen, i was working on christmas. with all due respect. should congress have taken a break? >> no. >> there...
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there is some political advantage to waiting to go off the fiscal cliff and coming back in january. the house speaker john boehner may have more flexibility as we're just saying. so that's one plus and democrats also will have a strengthened position in the congress come january. >> if republicans wait until the start of the new congress they can say, you know what? we voted to lower taxes. >> exactly. >> they just went up. >> i want to end with you here because we spend a lot of time talking about the fiscal cliff and the fact of the matter is the sequestration is fazed in. >> right. >> when you start talking about some of these taxes, whether it's the ending of unemployment insurance -- >> yeah. >> whether it's the payroll tax holiday going away, you start talking about an immediate impact for millions of families in this country. >> part of david's spoipoint is there's two to three-month wriggle room and shifting resources to unemployment insurance to keeping marginal tax rates unchanged, you know, for the next few months. at some point, look, they won't be able to do that. i wou
there is some political advantage to waiting to go off the fiscal cliff and coming back in january. the house speaker john boehner may have more flexibility as we're just saying. so that's one plus and democrats also will have a strengthened position in the congress come january. >> if republicans wait until the start of the new congress they can say, you know what? we voted to lower taxes. >> exactly. >> they just went up. >> i want to end with you here because we spend...
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what else is at stake in the fiscal cliff? let's look at some other issues, things that we're not sure will be in a deal that comes out this week. at the top of that list, government spending cuts. that's about 8% to 10% in cuts to most every federal agency. also a pay cut for medicare doctors of 27% that would hit after january 1st. finally, don, there are a slew of other tax hikes. the alternative minimum tax is one that people talk about. the estate tax. these are all things that would affect average americans and which would hit on january 1st. so the fiscal cliff, it might be even bigger than people realize. don? >> lisa, thank you very much. >>> we've got a lot more planned for you this saturday night. here's what else is ahead. as our lawmakers wrestle with u.s. gun violence, chicago hits an awful milestone. 500 murders this year and counting. what's to blame? a former gang member and chicago's police superintendent join me live. >>> plus, president obama could tap this republican to lead the defense department. but not
what else is at stake in the fiscal cliff? let's look at some other issues, things that we're not sure will be in a deal that comes out this week. at the top of that list, government spending cuts. that's about 8% to 10% in cuts to most every federal agency. also a pay cut for medicare doctors of 27% that would hit after january 1st. finally, don, there are a slew of other tax hikes. the alternative minimum tax is one that people talk about. the estate tax. these are all things that would...
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what else is at stake in the fiscal cliff? let's look at some other issues, things that we're not sure will be in a deal that comes out this week. at the top of that list, government spending cuts. that's about 8% to 10% in cuts to most every federal agency. also a pay cut for medicare doctors of 27% that would hit after january 1st. finally, don, there are a slew of other tax hikes. the alternative minimum tax is one that people talk about. the estate tax. these are all things that would affect average americans and which would hit on january 1st. so the fiscal cliff, it might be even bigger than people realize. don? >> lisa, thank you very much. >>> we've got a lot more planned for you this saturday night. here's what else is ahead. as our lawmakers wrestle with u.s. gun violence, chicago hits an awful milestone. 500 murders this year and counting. what's to blame? a former gang member and chicago's police superintendent join me live. >>> plus, president obama could tap this republican to lead the defense department. but not
what else is at stake in the fiscal cliff? let's look at some other issues, things that we're not sure will be in a deal that comes out this week. at the top of that list, government spending cuts. that's about 8% to 10% in cuts to most every federal agency. also a pay cut for medicare doctors of 27% that would hit after january 1st. finally, don, there are a slew of other tax hikes. the alternative minimum tax is one that people talk about. the estate tax. these are all things that would...
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we begin with this morning's fiscal cliff and the drama that now shifts to the house. overnight the senate overwhelmingly passed a compromised measure. it it delays the spending cuts that could have plunged the nation back into a recession. for most americans, taxes would stay the same r for almost everyone but top earners. but the measure is now up to the house. lawmakers take up the matter in two hours and could vote later today. and republican leaders in the house aren't making any promises that it will pass. this morning both parties say more work needs to be done. >> i'm disappointed that we weren't able to make the grand bargain as we have tried to do for so long, but we tried. if we do nothing, the threat of recession is very real. >> we have done some good for the country. we have taken care of the revenue side of this debate. and now it's time to get serious about reducing washington's out of control spending. that's a debate the american people want and it's the debate we'll have next and it's a debate republicans are ready for. >> we're covering all the angl
we begin with this morning's fiscal cliff and the drama that now shifts to the house. overnight the senate overwhelmingly passed a compromised measure. it it delays the spending cuts that could have plunged the nation back into a recession. for most americans, taxes would stay the same r for almost everyone but top earners. but the measure is now up to the house. lawmakers take up the matter in two hours and could vote later today. and republican leaders in the house aren't making any promises...
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to try to avoid heading off the fiscal cliff, president obama and the first lady kept up a christmas tradition. they visited marines at a base in hawaii thanking them for their service. mrs. obama and their daughters, by the way, won't cut short their vacation. they're staying in hawaii while dad flies home. >>> a trip to a christmas party with the family took an unexpected turn for my next guest and his wife when they ran into this -- >> oh, my god, we need to go. it's right there. >> his name is david and he joins me now by phone. welcome, david. >> hello, how are you? >> pretty good. you're driving to a christmas party and you see a huge, frightening tornado in front of you. what went through your mind? >> well, the first thing was, i asked my wife to pick up the camera and start getting some footage of it because i know that local news stations and everything were wanting to see what was going on. at that point, we just kind of drove as fast as we possibly could to get out of the way. >> i was going to ask you, so did you stop for a second to shoot these pictures and then drive o
to try to avoid heading off the fiscal cliff, president obama and the first lady kept up a christmas tradition. they visited marines at a base in hawaii thanking them for their service. mrs. obama and their daughters, by the way, won't cut short their vacation. they're staying in hawaii while dad flies home. >>> a trip to a christmas party with the family took an unexpected turn for my next guest and his wife when they ran into this -- >> oh, my god, we need to go. it's right...